Talk:Kingdom of Avern/@comment-13254814-20140129144909/@comment-7263041-20140129195608

I considered that honestly, so it is a good question, but there really isn't any evidence to support they have any territory outside of Shattrath itself save for the small outpost in the Bone Wastes. With that in mind I didn't see the harm in laying claim to it, although it has of course raised a few eyebrows as to why a Azeroth-born noble would claim the land.

I've basically summed it up to the fact that the Sha'tar have 'allowed' his claims because at the end of the day they're doing the Sha'tar a favor by not only getting rid of ruins that blight the forest, but also taking in the refugees which the Sha'tar have no way of taking care of. He's not being overly hostile (he could attack the Horde at Stonebreaker Hold but has chosen not to, although the expansion into old Horde villages hasn't improved his standing with them) but he is doing what he feels is necessary for his people.

That said, if Blizzard comes along and says that Terrokar belongs to the Sha'tar, I will happily change the article to reflect that. I've also left it up to player discretion, so if a player doesn't understand what I've done, or doesn't believe it can work, they're free to ignore it. The same goes if there are any clashes in territory with other roleplayers out there who have claimed, or are considering claiming portions of Terrokar for themselves, especially in the lead up to WoD where we'll be able to put Garrisons in various zones and use them as potential proxies for player settlements.