Talk:Kingdom of Lordaeron/@comment-5680513-20160122085232/@comment-1075234-20160122112438

Firstly the map is outdated, its a map of the EPL/WPL and Gilneas from pre-cata so you want to change that.

Secondly, the Forsaken own all of Andorhal

Thirdly the League of Lordaeron proxies, if what I was told is up to date and I believe it is, RPs within a small valley located ICly in the Hillsbrad Foothills, with its OOC location being Dun Garok

Forthly the Argent Crusade owns basically everything in WPL north of Andorhal, though the Forsaken may hold one of the farms in the early part of the zone

Fifthly the Alliance controls the small area south of Andorhal

Sixthly Scarlet Brigade does not own Tyr's Hand and at the most a dot should be placed on Tyr's Hand directing to a note that Scarlet Brigade and Remnant of Lordaeron make their home in Tyr's Hand

Seventhly, once the EPL map is updated you should have the Crusade holding most of the roads in the region so entrance of the zone all the way to Light's Shield, Light's shield to Light's Hope and then up to Eastwall and Northpass and then hold off on anything also because once you hit the Plaguewood is where things get tricky!

Eighthly, the Crusade holds a tower in the Plaguewood, not Terrordale, some could argue they hold the road through the Plaguewood but how we see the Scourge there would lead one to believe the main road is not 100% held yet.

It can also be argued that the Crusade holds most of the EPL except for places of Scourge holdouts, so Corin's Crossing, the mill north of Light's Hope, Northdale, the Plaguewood and Stratholme, the Fungal Vale, the other Vale, Darrowshire, but that would be more up to artist choice if anything you could leave it as black with a white dot outline for a lot of the land because it is actively contested by the Crusade and the Scourge has sort of lost their status as a massive power in the region and is more confined to the areas I stated.

I have also been informed there is a lot of clashing of guilds within the area of the Hillsbrad border with Arathi up to that river past Durnholde, with guilds X Y and Z claiming then, so you may want to just leave it as various forces contesting it, along with the major super power the Forsaken also claiming it. That also leads into the fact the Forsaken do hold the gate into Arathi Highlands and that should be taken into account.

That's all I got for now, you should definitely make the changes or just remove the map all together. With conflicting land claims and he claims this and she claims this it isn't worth the trouble of trying to map everyone on a map constricted by zone size that does not represent sort of the entire region.