Board Thread:Moderation Desk/@comment-644222-20150815034345/@comment-3429794-20150819043022

Aretain King wrote: What on earth are you talking about Lutharias? No one here is 'advertising' themselves as a good roleplayer or a good person. Everyone is here to add their own contributions to the wiki, be it their own characters lore, some fanon they have created about a particular area or subject, a direct port of a page from wowpedia the list goes on.

How does one exactly advertise that they're a good roleplayer or a good person on this wiki? Can you think of a way that anyone could possibly look at a character page or location page and instantly know that the player who created it is a decent person? That they're not a racist bigot trying to lure people in for slander and abuse? I can look at the pages that multiple people have created on this wiki, including Ranets, Maxen, Berenal and Moorwhelp to name a few and I have zero indication of what they are like as people, all I know is what their characters are like (assuming I am looking at a character profile page and not a navy page or a location page), and no, their characters are not on trial here so any vibes I get from their character pages, about their characters means absolutely nothing.

Even if people were 'advertising' themselves like this was some wierd mashup between World of Warcraft and Tinder (World of Tindercraft?), it still wouldn't resolve the issue that I pointed out previously, that being that no matter what the admins do, the punishments will not stick. This isn't a guild website where the admins can ban, and then make sure that the banned individual cannot sneak back on by monitoring account approvals, this is a wiki, meaning that anyone, even an anonymous user, can create or edit pages.

Even if the bans were permanent, what happens if the banned individual gets a friend to create / edit pages in their stead? Do we ban them using the 'guilty by association' logic? There is no way to permanently stop a person from accessing this wiki. IP bans can be circumvented, friends and proxies can be asked to edit pages made by banned individuals, anonymous users can easily make their own edits and create their own pages.

Unless the admins are prepared to put an iron stranglehold on this wiki (which I can tell you now, will not end well) this 'policy' will remain as useful as a snow machine in the middle of the sahara. I usualy do not get along with Aretain King on this wiki, but I agree with him on this part. Truth be told people here are very concerned people will abuse the system. Instead what this policy is doing is judgeing who can and who cannot create anything on this Wiki. I think the Wiki admins should keep their power of authority only on the wiki. Now if some one were to make racial slurs or propaganda in the wiki, yes ban them, but do not ban them for talking with each other in game or in a third party application. If you truly believe in tolerence, then I will say it is not a one way street it goes both ways.