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Question regarding the most recent edit. Is there a source for those numbers? Looking at the previous edit the numbers appear fine for what would be rough estimates, but there seems to have been a lot of added detail.

Looking at the previous infobox, I can't really see anything wrong with it. Everything on it seemed fine. Why was this change even necessary?

Aretain King (talk) 09:51, August 15, 2016 (UTC)

It's also vrykul, not vry'kul.  According to Wowpedia "Early concept art shows that they were originally called vry'kul" - this does not mean vry'kul is a viable term currently.

— Varadu (Jak) (user page; talk page) 10:23, August 15 (Monday), 2016 (UTC)

I don't think they appeared fine at all. In The Shattering, a Priest in Stormwind states that each candle being lit in memorium of the war represents one hundred dead soldiers, and Jaina estimates that there were at least 200 inside the Cathedral and at least that many lining up outside. I figured the Horde lost similar numbers so I kept those the same. If the Alliance or Horde lost 2/3rds of their initial forces in a war, they would obviously send more (if they had them to spare), so their total numbers obviously needed to go up. To be honest, it's possible I was too conservative in the increase.

As for the Scourge numbers, Arthas slaughtered over 2 million people in Quel'Thalas alone, as well as countless others in all of the Lordaeron continent, and Northrend as well. I tried to account for losses against in the Plaguelands, and that not every dead citizen would be raised into undeath, so I simply gave them a 2 million estimate. Again, possibly too conservative, but this is also possibly an overestimation.

So ultimately, there is no source and numbers are a guestimate, but they seem far more accurate than the previous numbers (which also had no source).

The previous infobox was not necessarily incorrect, but it was far too large and cluttered. I felt it needed a good cleaning up. Splitting the armies like that was simply unecessary. It also made it seem like the Ashen Verdict was at war with the Alliance and Horde.

Edit: You're correct in the Vrykul thing. I'll get to fixing that.

Digman14 (talk) 10:20, August 15, 2016 (UTC)